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31 März 2014 10:55 #9194
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tui
schon mit solch nebensächlichkeiten wie untersuchungen klarheit & logik zu tun
letzten endes wird menschlicher geist ins abseits entsorgt
rauch kristall pendel und oberflächliche nummereologie - scheint alle kräfte zu kosten
was haben in kumpanei mit weltgeist und gabriel vegitierende ultraesoterikerinnenbibibiberre schon vor soviel klarer und logischer Aussagekraft!
schon mit solch nebensächlichkeiten wie untersuchungen klarheit & logik zu tun
letzten endes wird menschlicher geist ins abseits entsorgt
rauch kristall pendel und oberflächliche nummereologie - scheint alle kräfte zu kosten
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31 März 2014 12:58 #9195
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Da sieht man, wie naiv und unverständig Du bist BS.
Mir helfen ganz ohne "rauch und pendel" bei bedarf die guten Geisterlein, die auch schon Abramelin tüchtig unter die Arme griffen. Worms ist halt bei mir um´s Eck.
Statt Deiner nichtsnutzigen "poppau-nummereologie", die Dir alle Kräfte raubt,
reichen mir Gabriel-inspirierte Buchstaben- und Zahlenkombis.
Und schon habe ich etwas mehr als nur einen Drahtesel zur Verfügung.
Mir helfen ganz ohne "rauch und pendel" bei bedarf die guten Geisterlein, die auch schon Abramelin tüchtig unter die Arme griffen. Worms ist halt bei mir um´s Eck.
Statt Deiner nichtsnutzigen "poppau-nummereologie", die Dir alle Kräfte raubt,
reichen mir Gabriel-inspirierte Buchstaben- und Zahlenkombis.
Und schon habe ich etwas mehr als nur einen Drahtesel zur Verfügung.
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01 Apr. 2014 08:07 #9196
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tui
du meinst festgestellt zu haben
daß der gesamte historische zeitstrahl bis ins kleinste detail
zahlenmystisch durchkonstuiert wurde - sperrst dich aber - wenn diese methode
auch in der weltweiten landvermessung bis in die gegenwart nachweisbar praktiziert wurde und wird
es handelt sich offenbar um ein hintergrund-system der wissenden
auch die offensichtliche bevorzugung von zahlekombinationen im modernen kultur- und informationsbetrieb
weisen in eine gleiche richtung
tja - und mir ganz bestimmt nichtreichen mir Gabriel-inspirierte Buchstaben- und Zahlenkombis.
du meinst festgestellt zu haben
daß der gesamte historische zeitstrahl bis ins kleinste detail
zahlenmystisch durchkonstuiert wurde - sperrst dich aber - wenn diese methode
auch in der weltweiten landvermessung bis in die gegenwart nachweisbar praktiziert wurde und wird
es handelt sich offenbar um ein hintergrund-system der wissenden
auch die offensichtliche bevorzugung von zahlekombinationen im modernen kultur- und informationsbetrieb
weisen in eine gleiche richtung
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01 Apr. 2014 14:58 - 01 Apr. 2014 14:59 #9197
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Du wolltest damit sicherlich sagen, dass Dir sowieso nie Geister helfen, weil Du vesäumt hast, diese große Wissenschaft zu studieren und anzuwenden.
Unabhängig davon bin ich selbstverständlich davon überzeugt, dass eine weltweite Landvermessung (mehrfach) erfolgte.
Ob (auch) von Poppau aus, müsstest Du besser beweisen. Google-Messungen reichen hier m.E. nicht aus.
Dahinter bzw. daneben liegt nach den damals zwingend vorgegebenen Analogieverfahren auch das zahlenmystische Konstruktionsprinzip des historischen Zeitstrahls. (4 : Pi Mathematik, gekoppelt mit den 19 alexandrinischen Monddaten, schließlich flüstern der Mondgeist Gabriel und seine Helferlein uns das alles ein)
Tuisto antwortete auf Krim (aus aktuellem Anlass)
tja - und mir ganz bestimmt nicht
Du wolltest damit sicherlich sagen, dass Dir sowieso nie Geister helfen, weil Du vesäumt hast, diese große Wissenschaft zu studieren und anzuwenden.
Unabhängig davon bin ich selbstverständlich davon überzeugt, dass eine weltweite Landvermessung (mehrfach) erfolgte.
Ob (auch) von Poppau aus, müsstest Du besser beweisen. Google-Messungen reichen hier m.E. nicht aus.
Dahinter bzw. daneben liegt nach den damals zwingend vorgegebenen Analogieverfahren auch das zahlenmystische Konstruktionsprinzip des historischen Zeitstrahls. (4 : Pi Mathematik, gekoppelt mit den 19 alexandrinischen Monddaten, schließlich flüstern der Mondgeist Gabriel und seine Helferlein uns das alles ein)
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01 Apr. 2014 16:17 - 01 Apr. 2014 16:45 #9198
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da jede neuvermessung in den alten strukturen die alten vermessungen tradiert
google earth vermessungen sind perfekt um regionale und weltweite strukturen aufzudecken
wir alle erarbeiten indizien
auf grundlage von vielfältigen hinweisen natürlich vor allem unserer vorfahren
diese stimmen wenden sich in unterschiedlicher art und weise auch an mich
die zentralwissenschaften haben ihr beweisparadoxon geschaffen
um unliebsame themen nicht bearbeiten zu müssen
das ist menschenverachtend & lächerlich
der schriftliche historische beweis als grundlage des forschungsbeginns
& das in der tradition von menschen- und bücherverbrennern
einmal vermessen immer vermessem in einem geometrischem systemweltweite Landvermessung (mehrfach)
da jede neuvermessung in den alten strukturen die alten vermessungen tradiert
google earth vermessungen sind perfekt um regionale und weltweite strukturen aufzudecken
wir alle erarbeiten indizien
auf grundlage von vielfältigen hinweisen natürlich vor allem unserer vorfahren
diese stimmen wenden sich in unterschiedlicher art und weise auch an mich
die zentralwissenschaften haben ihr beweisparadoxon geschaffen
um unliebsame themen nicht bearbeiten zu müssen
das ist menschenverachtend & lächerlich
der schriftliche historische beweis als grundlage des forschungsbeginns
& das in der tradition von menschen- und bücherverbrennern
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01 Apr. 2014 20:50 - 02 Apr. 2014 07:02 #9200
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wer sagt´s denn, lieber Wolfgang, auf dieser Basis kommen wir uns langsam wieder näher.
Doch zurück zum Thema und zur Krim bzw. zu den Askenasim und den Chasaren die in dieser Region einst lebten.
Chasar kommt u.a. von Ek hasar und bedeutet 4 bzw. Tetrarchie:
"In the vocables of Saxony and Hessia, there are some villages of the name Askenaz, and from him the Jews call the Germans Askenaz, but in the Saxonic and Italian, they are called Tuiscones, from Tuisco his other name. In the 25th year of his reign, he partitioned the kingdom into Toparchies, Tetrarchies, and Governments, and brought colonies from diverse parts to increase it. He built the city Duisburg, made a body of laws in verse, and invented letters, which Kadmos later imitated, for the Greek and High Dutch are alike in many words."
Das englische Wiki ist in historischen Fragen sehr viel präziser als der deutsche Quatsch.
"The 1732 tome Royal genealogies by James Anderson reports a significant number of antiquarian or mythographic traditions regarding Askenaz as the first king of ancient Germany, in the following entry:
Askenaz, or Askanes, called by Aventinus Tuisco the Giant, and by others Tuisto or Tuizo (whom Aventinus makes the 4th son of Noah, and that he was born after the flood, but without authority) was sent by Noah into Europe, after the flood 131 years, with 20 Captains, and made a settlement near the Tanais, on the West coast of the Euxin sea (by some called Asken from him) and there founded the kingdom of the Germans and the Sarmatians... when Askenaz himself was 24 years old, for he lived above 200 years, and reigned 176."
176 = 2 x 88 oder Jesus oder 1760 USA!
Vielleicht kriegt der gute Basileus jetzt endlich mal einen Flashback-Kick.
" The 20 captains or dukes that came with Askenaz are: Sarmata, from whom Sarmatia; Dacus or Danus – Dania or Denmark; Geta from whom the Getae; Gotha from whom the Goths; Tibiscus, people on the river Tibiscus; Mocia - Mysia; Phrygus or Brigus - Phrygia; Thynus - Bithynia; Dalmata - Dalmatia; Jader – Jadera Colonia; Albanus from whom Albania; Zavus – the river Save; Pannus – Pannonia; Salon - the town Sale, Azalus – the Azali; Hister – Istria; Adulas, Dietas, Ibalus – people that of old dwelt between the rivers Oenus and Rhenus; Epirus, from whom Epirus.
Askenaz had a brother called Scytha (say the Germans) the father of the Scythians, for which the Germans have of old been called Scythians too (very justly, for they came mostly from old Scythia) and Germany had several ancient names; for that part next to the Euxin was called Scythia, and the country of the Getes, but the parts east of the Vistule or Weyssel were called Sarmatia Europaea, and westward it was called Gallia, Celtica, Allemania, Francia and Teutonia; for old Germany comprehended the greater part of Europe; and those called Gauls were all old Germans; who by ancient authors were called Celts, Gauls and Galatians, which is confirmed by the historians Strabo and Aventinus, and by Alstedius in his Chronology, p. 201 etc. Askenaz, or Tuisco, after his death, was worshipped as the ambassador and interpreter of the gods, and from thence called the first German Mercury, from Tuitseben to interpret.[5"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenaz
"Unter Grigori Potjomkin wurde die Krim Teil Russlands. Am 8. April 1783 wurde sie formell von Katharina II. „von nun an und für alle Zeiten“ als russisch deklariert."
Es liegt auf der Hand, dass wir Deutsche diese Halbinsel prinzipiell den Russen gönnen.
Welch ein Problem für Europa und die USA, die laut Brit Am schon immer Hebräer waren mit der gleichen Namensbedeutung: Umherziehende! (und Tetrarchen, wie ich interpretiere)
"The term Khazar was frequently interchanged with the simple term "Jew" or "Hebrew". [In fact one possible meaning of the term "Khazar" is "wanderer" i.e. the same as "Hebrew".]
britam.org/KhazarsHebrews.html
und:
britam.org/khazariamanaseh.html
Der Fall ist klar:
Hinter der von den USA finanzierten Bewegung in der Ukraine stehen uralte jüdische geographische und merkantile Interessen.
Man kann dafür oder dagegen sein, aber Deutschland ist in im Prinzip die andere Seite dieser gotisch/jüdischen Medaille, weshalb wir logischerweise (freundschaftlich) zu Rußland neigen (müssen). Schröder hat dies klar erfasst.
Tatsächlich spiegelt sich hier Geschichte von Troja/Echnaton -1333 über Alexander/Askenas -333 über + 333 (Alexander Severus +222 + 111 (= 112) Jahre der Hippolytustafel = 333 AD) bis zu den Kreuzzügen mit Abschluß der Pest = Ende der Katastrophenserie, was Müller in seiner Ansicht von der Geschichte im Prinzip zumindest chronologisch klar erfaßt hat.
" Der Fall Trojas wurde von antiken Autoren zwischen 1334 und 1135 v. Chr. datiert, wobei sich die meisten Datierungen in einem Zeitraum vom Ende des 13. Jahrhunderts bis zum frühen 12. Jahrhundert v. Chr. bewegen." de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trojanischer_Krieg
1334 BC = -1333. Echnaton und Alexander sind beide im gleichen Tempel in Karnak anwesend, trotz 1000 Jahre Differenz. Aber 1000 Jahre sind bekanntlich für Götter wie Echnaton und Alexander auch nur 1 Tag!
"Unter Amenophis IV. wurde der Tempel geschlossen, der Name des Gottes Amun getilgt und er errichtete in der Nähe ein Atonheiligtum. Tutanchamun baute am Säulensaal weiter, der durch Haremhab fertiggestellt wurde .
Ramses II. ließ den ersten Hof und den großen Pylon mit den Statuen und den Obelisken aufführen. Nektanebos I. gestaltete den Hof vor dem Pylon aus.
Alexander der Große ließ das Sanktuar umbauen. Statt der vier Säulen, die das Dach trugen, wurde eine Kapelle errichtet
"Begründet durch den Namen der ehemaligen Colonia Ulpia Traiana, etablierten sich bis ins Mittelalter auch die Bezeichnungen Troia Minor („Klein-Troja“) und Troia Francorum („fränkisches Troja“) für Xanten. Um 1100 erzählte schließlich das Annolied von der Gründung Xantens durch die im Trojanischen Krieg unterlegenen Trojaner" wiki
Vergessen wir nicht die Askanier zu denen natürlich Katharina die Große gehörte:
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Askanier
"Die Askanier lassen sich in ihrem Mannesstamm bis zu Beginn des 11. Jahrhunderts urkundlich zurückverfolgen."
"Dem Wandel des Titels und damit die Entstehung des Geschlechternamens lag offenbar das Motiv zu Grunde, eine möglichst weit zurückreichende und damit prestigeträchtige Genealogie zu beanspruchen. Seit dem 16. Jahrhundert bemühten sich Haushistoriker der Anhaltiner und Sachsen-Lauenburger Familienzweige die Abkunft ihrer Dienstherren von Askanius, dem Sohn des trojanischen Helden Aeneas, oder gar vom biblischen Aschkenas, dem Urenkel Noachs, herzuleiten. Den Anfang machte 1519 der „Panegiricus Genealogiarum illustrium Principum Dominorum in Anhalt“ des ballenstädtener Mönchs Heinrich Basse."
Doch zurück zum Thema und zur Krim bzw. zu den Askenasim und den Chasaren die in dieser Region einst lebten.
Chasar kommt u.a. von Ek hasar und bedeutet 4 bzw. Tetrarchie:
"In the vocables of Saxony and Hessia, there are some villages of the name Askenaz, and from him the Jews call the Germans Askenaz, but in the Saxonic and Italian, they are called Tuiscones, from Tuisco his other name. In the 25th year of his reign, he partitioned the kingdom into Toparchies, Tetrarchies, and Governments, and brought colonies from diverse parts to increase it. He built the city Duisburg, made a body of laws in verse, and invented letters, which Kadmos later imitated, for the Greek and High Dutch are alike in many words."
Das englische Wiki ist in historischen Fragen sehr viel präziser als der deutsche Quatsch.
"The 1732 tome Royal genealogies by James Anderson reports a significant number of antiquarian or mythographic traditions regarding Askenaz as the first king of ancient Germany, in the following entry:
Askenaz, or Askanes, called by Aventinus Tuisco the Giant, and by others Tuisto or Tuizo (whom Aventinus makes the 4th son of Noah, and that he was born after the flood, but without authority) was sent by Noah into Europe, after the flood 131 years, with 20 Captains, and made a settlement near the Tanais, on the West coast of the Euxin sea (by some called Asken from him) and there founded the kingdom of the Germans and the Sarmatians... when Askenaz himself was 24 years old, for he lived above 200 years, and reigned 176."
176 = 2 x 88 oder Jesus oder 1760 USA!
Vielleicht kriegt der gute Basileus jetzt endlich mal einen Flashback-Kick.
" The 20 captains or dukes that came with Askenaz are: Sarmata, from whom Sarmatia; Dacus or Danus – Dania or Denmark; Geta from whom the Getae; Gotha from whom the Goths; Tibiscus, people on the river Tibiscus; Mocia - Mysia; Phrygus or Brigus - Phrygia; Thynus - Bithynia; Dalmata - Dalmatia; Jader – Jadera Colonia; Albanus from whom Albania; Zavus – the river Save; Pannus – Pannonia; Salon - the town Sale, Azalus – the Azali; Hister – Istria; Adulas, Dietas, Ibalus – people that of old dwelt between the rivers Oenus and Rhenus; Epirus, from whom Epirus.
Askenaz had a brother called Scytha (say the Germans) the father of the Scythians, for which the Germans have of old been called Scythians too (very justly, for they came mostly from old Scythia) and Germany had several ancient names; for that part next to the Euxin was called Scythia, and the country of the Getes, but the parts east of the Vistule or Weyssel were called Sarmatia Europaea, and westward it was called Gallia, Celtica, Allemania, Francia and Teutonia; for old Germany comprehended the greater part of Europe; and those called Gauls were all old Germans; who by ancient authors were called Celts, Gauls and Galatians, which is confirmed by the historians Strabo and Aventinus, and by Alstedius in his Chronology, p. 201 etc. Askenaz, or Tuisco, after his death, was worshipped as the ambassador and interpreter of the gods, and from thence called the first German Mercury, from Tuitseben to interpret.[5"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenaz
"Unter Grigori Potjomkin wurde die Krim Teil Russlands. Am 8. April 1783 wurde sie formell von Katharina II. „von nun an und für alle Zeiten“ als russisch deklariert."
Es liegt auf der Hand, dass wir Deutsche diese Halbinsel prinzipiell den Russen gönnen.
Welch ein Problem für Europa und die USA, die laut Brit Am schon immer Hebräer waren mit der gleichen Namensbedeutung: Umherziehende! (und Tetrarchen, wie ich interpretiere)
"The term Khazar was frequently interchanged with the simple term "Jew" or "Hebrew". [In fact one possible meaning of the term "Khazar" is "wanderer" i.e. the same as "Hebrew".]
britam.org/KhazarsHebrews.html
und:
britam.org/khazariamanaseh.html
Der Fall ist klar:
Hinter der von den USA finanzierten Bewegung in der Ukraine stehen uralte jüdische geographische und merkantile Interessen.
Man kann dafür oder dagegen sein, aber Deutschland ist in im Prinzip die andere Seite dieser gotisch/jüdischen Medaille, weshalb wir logischerweise (freundschaftlich) zu Rußland neigen (müssen). Schröder hat dies klar erfasst.
Tatsächlich spiegelt sich hier Geschichte von Troja/Echnaton -1333 über Alexander/Askenas -333 über + 333 (Alexander Severus +222 + 111 (= 112) Jahre der Hippolytustafel = 333 AD) bis zu den Kreuzzügen mit Abschluß der Pest = Ende der Katastrophenserie, was Müller in seiner Ansicht von der Geschichte im Prinzip zumindest chronologisch klar erfaßt hat.
" Der Fall Trojas wurde von antiken Autoren zwischen 1334 und 1135 v. Chr. datiert, wobei sich die meisten Datierungen in einem Zeitraum vom Ende des 13. Jahrhunderts bis zum frühen 12. Jahrhundert v. Chr. bewegen." de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trojanischer_Krieg
1334 BC = -1333. Echnaton und Alexander sind beide im gleichen Tempel in Karnak anwesend, trotz 1000 Jahre Differenz. Aber 1000 Jahre sind bekanntlich für Götter wie Echnaton und Alexander auch nur 1 Tag!
"Unter Amenophis IV. wurde der Tempel geschlossen, der Name des Gottes Amun getilgt und er errichtete in der Nähe ein Atonheiligtum. Tutanchamun baute am Säulensaal weiter, der durch Haremhab fertiggestellt wurde .
Ramses II. ließ den ersten Hof und den großen Pylon mit den Statuen und den Obelisken aufführen. Nektanebos I. gestaltete den Hof vor dem Pylon aus.
Alexander der Große ließ das Sanktuar umbauen. Statt der vier Säulen, die das Dach trugen, wurde eine Kapelle errichtet
"Begründet durch den Namen der ehemaligen Colonia Ulpia Traiana, etablierten sich bis ins Mittelalter auch die Bezeichnungen Troia Minor („Klein-Troja“) und Troia Francorum („fränkisches Troja“) für Xanten. Um 1100 erzählte schließlich das Annolied von der Gründung Xantens durch die im Trojanischen Krieg unterlegenen Trojaner" wiki
Vergessen wir nicht die Askanier zu denen natürlich Katharina die Große gehörte:
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Askanier
"Die Askanier lassen sich in ihrem Mannesstamm bis zu Beginn des 11. Jahrhunderts urkundlich zurückverfolgen."
"Dem Wandel des Titels und damit die Entstehung des Geschlechternamens lag offenbar das Motiv zu Grunde, eine möglichst weit zurückreichende und damit prestigeträchtige Genealogie zu beanspruchen. Seit dem 16. Jahrhundert bemühten sich Haushistoriker der Anhaltiner und Sachsen-Lauenburger Familienzweige die Abkunft ihrer Dienstherren von Askanius, dem Sohn des trojanischen Helden Aeneas, oder gar vom biblischen Aschkenas, dem Urenkel Noachs, herzuleiten. Den Anfang machte 1519 der „Panegiricus Genealogiarum illustrium Principum Dominorum in Anhalt“ des ballenstädtener Mönchs Heinrich Basse."
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01 Apr. 2014 21:18 #9201
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Die Fährnisse der Zeit trennten die alte Kirche in Ost- und Westkirche und auf der Schnittstelle zurück blieben die "Altgläubigen", die sich seitdem dieser Situation im Schraubstock wenn möglich zu entziehen versuchten und zu wandern begannen...
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01 Apr. 2014 21:28 - 02 Apr. 2014 07:01 #9202
von Tuisto
Tuisto antwortete auf Krim (aus aktuellem Anlass)
Ja, nur sollte man auch den hauptsächlichen Grund erwähnen:
1666 wähnte man das Ende der Welt gekommen und erwartete den Antichristen, während die Juden in gleicher Umgebung ihren geistesgestörten Messias Schabbatai Zwi mit lautem Jubel feierten.
www.jmberlin.de/main/DE/01-Ausstellungen...chichten/messias.php
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altorthodoxe
1666 wähnte man das Ende der Welt gekommen und erwartete den Antichristen, während die Juden in gleicher Umgebung ihren geistesgestörten Messias Schabbatai Zwi mit lautem Jubel feierten.
www.jmberlin.de/main/DE/01-Ausstellungen...chichten/messias.php
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altorthodoxe
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18 Apr. 2014 10:25 - 18 Apr. 2014 10:28 #9230
von Tuisto
Tuisto antwortete auf Krim (aus aktuellem Anlass)
Lang ist´s her, so scheint es jedenfalls, wenn man in´s unselige 20. Jahrhundert rückblickt.
Doch noch immer gilt, was der große Kabbalist Baal haSulam über die negativen Seiten des real existierenden Kommunismus/Kapitalismus im Gegensatz zum wünschenswerten Staatswesen schrieb:
The Negative
1. If there is nationalization before the public is ready for it, meaning before each one has a sound basis, and secured cause for fuel to work, it is as though one ruins one’s little house before he has the means to build another house.
2. Public equality does not mean equalizing the level of the talented and successful to the level of the negligent and oppressed. This would completely ruin the public. Rather, it means allowing each person in the public a middleclass living standard. Thus, the negligent too would have as much freedom in their life as the middleclass.
3. The freedom of the individual must be kept if it is not harmful to the majority of the public. The detrimental must not be pitied; they must be made harmless.
4. Current communism endures because of the idealists that lead it. They were idealists before they became communists. However, the second generation, when the leaders will be elected by the majority of the public, will gradually be repealed, taking the form of Nazism or turning back to possessiveness. This is because nothing will stop them from exploiting other negligent nations.
5. Egoistic Communism holds no war-preventing element since the basis of all the wars is living territory, where each wants to build on the ruin of the other, whether justly, or because of envy that the other has more.
Communism based on “mine is mine” in a framework of equal division does nothing to remove the envy of the nations with each other, much less the nations’ lack of living space. It is also hopeless that the rich nations will give off their share to equalize with the poor since “mine is mine and yours is yours” does not necessitate that. Only communism of “mine is yours and yours is yours” will resolve that.
6. Even today we see that there is a global force that overpowered and conquered all the communist countries, behaving there as in its own home, just as it was in ancient history in Greece and Rome etc. There is no doubt that this force will split into pieces; we already find Tito. When they split up, they are certain to fight each other, for how does Russia govern Czechoslovakia, or the others, if not by the sword and the spear?
7. In communism, employers strive to diminish the consumption of the workers and increase their productivity. In imperialism, the employers want and act to increase the consumption of the workers, and to equalize productivity to consumption.
8. The rulers’ and supervisors’ class will ultimately create a sort of exile over the working class since all the workers leave their surplus in the hands of the rulers, who take the greater part from them. Hence, they will not let a single worker get away from under their hands to another country. Thus, the workers will be caged, guarded like Israel in Pharaoh’s Egypt.
9. The rulers and the inspectors are destined finally to put all the old and handicapped in the working class to death, arguing that they eat more than they make and they are parasites on the country. No one will die a natural death.
10. If communism spreads throughout the world, it will put to death every nation that eats more than it makes.
11. If the profiteers and the merchants will become allotters, the buyers will become receivers of charity from the hands of the allotters, and the allotters will do with them as they see fit, or as much as they are afraid of the inspectors.
12. Communism does not exist over an anti-communist society because a regime supported on bayonets and spears has no right to exist. Eventually, the majority in society will strengthen and overthrow that government. Hence, an altruistic majority must be established first, and the government will be supported on will.
13. The conduct of waves of hatred and envy will later turn against the backward; when communism is built on waves of hatred and envy, it will only succeed in overthrowing the backward, not in benefiting the backward. On the contrary, the same ones that have grown accustomed to hatred and envy will turn the arrows of hatred against the backward once the bourgeois are gone.
14. Egoistic Communism is certain to be at perpetual war with the public: the communist regime will be compelled always to war with the anti-communist by its very nature. This is because each person naturally tends to be possessive. People naturally tend to take the cream and leave the whey for others.
Nature does not change by schooling or public opinion; it is unimaginable that one will ever willingly agree. Army bayonets cannot turn nature around, much less edification and public opinion.
Naturally-born idealists are few. If you should say that theft and robbery are well guarded in the capitalistic regime, then I shall tell you that it is because the law permits legal competition. It is comparable to a person who gathers an association where the majority is murderers and robbers, and wants to rule and compel them to keep the law. However, regarding the annulment of property, everyone is a robber.
15. Israel is qualified to set an example to all the nations: Altruistic Communism is seldom found in the human spirit; hence, the nobler people must take upon it to set an example for the entire world.
16. The country is in danger; Altruistic Communism will help with the ingathering of the exiles. The nation is in danger because each will flee to a different place before the economy is stabilized. This is because not every person can endure while there is a way to live comfortably.
In the Altruistic Communism the ideal will shine upon all people, giving them satisfaction that will make the suffering worthwhile. Moreover, it will draw the ingathering of the exiles from all the countries because the worries and survival wars everyone experiences overseas will motivate them to return to their land and live peacefully and justly.
17. The philosophy is ready, meaning Kabbalah based on religion. Each practical method also requires a renewed idealistic nourishment to contemplate, meaning a philosophy. As far as this is concerned, there is already a complete and ready-made philosophy, meaning Kabbalah, though it is intended only for the leaders.
18. Why are we the chosen people? We must set a good example to the entire world because we are better qualified than all other nations. It is not because we are more idealistic than they are, but because we suffered from tyranny more than all other nations. For that reason, we are more prepared to seek counsel that will end tyranny from the land.
19. Ownership and the control are not identical. For example, the owners of the railway are the shareholders, and the control is in the hands of the managers, though they do not have even a single share. The same applies to the shipping company, where the shareholders have no right to control or advise.
Take warships for example. They are owned by the state, yet no civilian is permitted aboard them. In addition, if the state should be in the hands of the proletariat by way of ownership, the management will ultimately be in the hands of the same managers as now, or others of likewise temper. The proletariat will have no greater foothold and benefit than they do now, unless the rulers are idealists, caring for the good of every single individual.
In a word, from the perspective of the government, it makes no difference whether the ownership is given to capitalists or to the state. In the end, it is the managers who will control them, not the owners. Hence, the correction of society should relate primarily to the executives.
In a proletariat state the clerks and the managers would waste their energy much more than in capitalistic countries. This is because the government is oligarchic, not democratic. In simple words, the communists control anti-communists.
20. Oligarchy must be. That will never change since communism means idealism, which is not in possession of the majority. A condition where the communists rule over anti-communists is obliged to be in the hands of a group of autocratic executives in absolute dictatorship.
All the people in the country will be in their hands, baring no weight whatsoever. They must always keep the sword in their hands for killing, incarceration, concealed and revealed punishments, food depravation and all sorts of punishments, according to each executive’s arbitrary decision. All this is in order to keep the anti-communists in dreadful terror and fear, so that they work for the state and not ruin it inadvertently or maliciously.
21. In such a state, the executives must make sure the citizens have no possibility to choose a democratic management, since the majority of the country is anti-communists.
22. In such a state, where the communists control the anti-communists, the managers must make certain that their citizens have no possibility for advertisement, or to disclose the dreadful injustice that is done to the people of the state or to the minorities in the state.
In other words, the printers are not to print and the administrators of the lecture halls must watch over the speakers so that they do not criticize their deeds. They must punish anyone who plans, or even thinks of criticizing their acts. Thus, the government will have full control to deal with them arbitrarily; there will be no one to detain them.
23. Ethics cannot rely solely on pubic opinion, because public opinion necessitates only what is in the public’s favor. Hence, if one comes and proves that morality is harmful to the public and vulgarity is more beneficial, they will immediately discard morality and choose vulgarity, as Hitler testifies.
24. The egoistic Communism based on waves of envy and odium will never be rid of them, but when there are no bourgeois, they will cast their hate on Israel. We must not be mistaken that communism will cure the loathing of the nations. Only Altruistic Communism can be expected to bring that remedy.
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Doch noch immer gilt, was der große Kabbalist Baal haSulam über die negativen Seiten des real existierenden Kommunismus/Kapitalismus im Gegensatz zum wünschenswerten Staatswesen schrieb:
The Negative
1. If there is nationalization before the public is ready for it, meaning before each one has a sound basis, and secured cause for fuel to work, it is as though one ruins one’s little house before he has the means to build another house.
2. Public equality does not mean equalizing the level of the talented and successful to the level of the negligent and oppressed. This would completely ruin the public. Rather, it means allowing each person in the public a middleclass living standard. Thus, the negligent too would have as much freedom in their life as the middleclass.
3. The freedom of the individual must be kept if it is not harmful to the majority of the public. The detrimental must not be pitied; they must be made harmless.
4. Current communism endures because of the idealists that lead it. They were idealists before they became communists. However, the second generation, when the leaders will be elected by the majority of the public, will gradually be repealed, taking the form of Nazism or turning back to possessiveness. This is because nothing will stop them from exploiting other negligent nations.
5. Egoistic Communism holds no war-preventing element since the basis of all the wars is living territory, where each wants to build on the ruin of the other, whether justly, or because of envy that the other has more.
Communism based on “mine is mine” in a framework of equal division does nothing to remove the envy of the nations with each other, much less the nations’ lack of living space. It is also hopeless that the rich nations will give off their share to equalize with the poor since “mine is mine and yours is yours” does not necessitate that. Only communism of “mine is yours and yours is yours” will resolve that.
6. Even today we see that there is a global force that overpowered and conquered all the communist countries, behaving there as in its own home, just as it was in ancient history in Greece and Rome etc. There is no doubt that this force will split into pieces; we already find Tito. When they split up, they are certain to fight each other, for how does Russia govern Czechoslovakia, or the others, if not by the sword and the spear?
7. In communism, employers strive to diminish the consumption of the workers and increase their productivity. In imperialism, the employers want and act to increase the consumption of the workers, and to equalize productivity to consumption.
8. The rulers’ and supervisors’ class will ultimately create a sort of exile over the working class since all the workers leave their surplus in the hands of the rulers, who take the greater part from them. Hence, they will not let a single worker get away from under their hands to another country. Thus, the workers will be caged, guarded like Israel in Pharaoh’s Egypt.
9. The rulers and the inspectors are destined finally to put all the old and handicapped in the working class to death, arguing that they eat more than they make and they are parasites on the country. No one will die a natural death.
10. If communism spreads throughout the world, it will put to death every nation that eats more than it makes.
11. If the profiteers and the merchants will become allotters, the buyers will become receivers of charity from the hands of the allotters, and the allotters will do with them as they see fit, or as much as they are afraid of the inspectors.
12. Communism does not exist over an anti-communist society because a regime supported on bayonets and spears has no right to exist. Eventually, the majority in society will strengthen and overthrow that government. Hence, an altruistic majority must be established first, and the government will be supported on will.
13. The conduct of waves of hatred and envy will later turn against the backward; when communism is built on waves of hatred and envy, it will only succeed in overthrowing the backward, not in benefiting the backward. On the contrary, the same ones that have grown accustomed to hatred and envy will turn the arrows of hatred against the backward once the bourgeois are gone.
14. Egoistic Communism is certain to be at perpetual war with the public: the communist regime will be compelled always to war with the anti-communist by its very nature. This is because each person naturally tends to be possessive. People naturally tend to take the cream and leave the whey for others.
Nature does not change by schooling or public opinion; it is unimaginable that one will ever willingly agree. Army bayonets cannot turn nature around, much less edification and public opinion.
Naturally-born idealists are few. If you should say that theft and robbery are well guarded in the capitalistic regime, then I shall tell you that it is because the law permits legal competition. It is comparable to a person who gathers an association where the majority is murderers and robbers, and wants to rule and compel them to keep the law. However, regarding the annulment of property, everyone is a robber.
15. Israel is qualified to set an example to all the nations: Altruistic Communism is seldom found in the human spirit; hence, the nobler people must take upon it to set an example for the entire world.
16. The country is in danger; Altruistic Communism will help with the ingathering of the exiles. The nation is in danger because each will flee to a different place before the economy is stabilized. This is because not every person can endure while there is a way to live comfortably.
In the Altruistic Communism the ideal will shine upon all people, giving them satisfaction that will make the suffering worthwhile. Moreover, it will draw the ingathering of the exiles from all the countries because the worries and survival wars everyone experiences overseas will motivate them to return to their land and live peacefully and justly.
17. The philosophy is ready, meaning Kabbalah based on religion. Each practical method also requires a renewed idealistic nourishment to contemplate, meaning a philosophy. As far as this is concerned, there is already a complete and ready-made philosophy, meaning Kabbalah, though it is intended only for the leaders.
18. Why are we the chosen people? We must set a good example to the entire world because we are better qualified than all other nations. It is not because we are more idealistic than they are, but because we suffered from tyranny more than all other nations. For that reason, we are more prepared to seek counsel that will end tyranny from the land.
19. Ownership and the control are not identical. For example, the owners of the railway are the shareholders, and the control is in the hands of the managers, though they do not have even a single share. The same applies to the shipping company, where the shareholders have no right to control or advise.
Take warships for example. They are owned by the state, yet no civilian is permitted aboard them. In addition, if the state should be in the hands of the proletariat by way of ownership, the management will ultimately be in the hands of the same managers as now, or others of likewise temper. The proletariat will have no greater foothold and benefit than they do now, unless the rulers are idealists, caring for the good of every single individual.
In a word, from the perspective of the government, it makes no difference whether the ownership is given to capitalists or to the state. In the end, it is the managers who will control them, not the owners. Hence, the correction of society should relate primarily to the executives.
In a proletariat state the clerks and the managers would waste their energy much more than in capitalistic countries. This is because the government is oligarchic, not democratic. In simple words, the communists control anti-communists.
20. Oligarchy must be. That will never change since communism means idealism, which is not in possession of the majority. A condition where the communists rule over anti-communists is obliged to be in the hands of a group of autocratic executives in absolute dictatorship.
All the people in the country will be in their hands, baring no weight whatsoever. They must always keep the sword in their hands for killing, incarceration, concealed and revealed punishments, food depravation and all sorts of punishments, according to each executive’s arbitrary decision. All this is in order to keep the anti-communists in dreadful terror and fear, so that they work for the state and not ruin it inadvertently or maliciously.
21. In such a state, the executives must make sure the citizens have no possibility to choose a democratic management, since the majority of the country is anti-communists.
22. In such a state, where the communists control the anti-communists, the managers must make certain that their citizens have no possibility for advertisement, or to disclose the dreadful injustice that is done to the people of the state or to the minorities in the state.
In other words, the printers are not to print and the administrators of the lecture halls must watch over the speakers so that they do not criticize their deeds. They must punish anyone who plans, or even thinks of criticizing their acts. Thus, the government will have full control to deal with them arbitrarily; there will be no one to detain them.
23. Ethics cannot rely solely on pubic opinion, because public opinion necessitates only what is in the public’s favor. Hence, if one comes and proves that morality is harmful to the public and vulgarity is more beneficial, they will immediately discard morality and choose vulgarity, as Hitler testifies.
24. The egoistic Communism based on waves of envy and odium will never be rid of them, but when there are no bourgeois, they will cast their hate on Israel. We must not be mistaken that communism will cure the loathing of the nations. Only Altruistic Communism can be expected to bring that remedy.
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wie verflochten sich die Geschichte des nördlichen Schwarzen Meeres, mithin der Chasaren/Aschkenasim/Alanen/Sachsen aus Sicht der Juden mit derer Mitteleuropas darstellt, dann man hier nachlesen:
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